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https://k5wiki.kerberos.org/wiki?title=K5Wiki:Positioning_the_wiki&diff=322&oldid=prev
Estone: New page: == Planning the Wiki Evolution == This page will describe the structure and organization of this wiki. It will be easier to use and contribute to it if the structure/outline and TOCs are...
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<p>New page: == Planning the Wiki Evolution == This page will describe the structure and organization of this wiki. It will be easier to use and contribute to it if the structure/outline and TOCs are...</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Planning the Wiki Evolution ==<br />
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This page will describe the structure and organization of this wiki. It will be easier to use and contribute to it if the structure/outline and TOCs are as clear as possible. It would be nice to avoid explanatory text ("how this wiki is organized") if possible. Right now, there is no site-wide Table of Contents, and "stub" pages are pretty randomly put together. <br />
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This also relates to the re-design of the Kerberos Consortium web site, w/r/t ease of navigation and access to levels of information. <br />
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--[[User:Estone|Estone]] 20:23, 10 April 2008 (EDT)</div>
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