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		<title>TomYu: New page: {{minutes|2013}}  Will Fiveash, Greg Hudson, Ben Kaduk, Nathaniel McCallum, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkov, Tom Yu  ;Greg: (to Nathaniel) think we're done.  Maybe one more thing.  Simo propose...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: {{minutes|2013}}  Will Fiveash, Greg Hudson, Ben Kaduk, Nathaniel McCallum, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkov, Tom Yu  ;Greg: (to Nathaniel) think we&amp;#039;re done.  Maybe one more thing.  Simo propose...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{minutes|2013}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Will Fiveash, Greg Hudson, Ben Kaduk, Nathaniel McCallum, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkov, Tom Yu&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: (to Nathaniel) think we're done.  Maybe one more thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Simo proposes negative cache for service principals in GSS.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Ben: There's a long 30-second timeout on ssh if the target doesn't support GSS.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: It was making ~120 queries.  Domain walk.  Multiple KDC lookups etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Firefox falls back on NTLM.  Each img does a new GSS attempt.  Long timeouts.&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe negative cache should have a short timeout? a few seconds?&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Not more than 5 seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Probably won't be able to do this in time for 1.12.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Red Hat might be interested in process-backed ccache.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some discussion about strategies -- doors, dbus, etc.  Some challenges with things like sudo.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Might find someone at Red Hat to do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: GSS/NTLM.  Can't use MIT crypto; used OpenSSL instead.  Not exported.  No Unicode support.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Zhanna: Why OpenSSL and not NSS?&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Needed MD4.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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