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		<title>TomYu: New page: {{minutes|2011}} Will Fiveash, Carlos Garay, Thomas Hardjono, Greg Hudson, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkova, Tom Yu ==Proxy GSS== ;Carlos: Proxy GSS in Java for Android. Privilege separation ha...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: {{minutes|2011}} Will Fiveash, Carlos Garay, Thomas Hardjono, Greg Hudson, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkova, Tom Yu ==Proxy GSS== ;Carlos: Proxy GSS in Java for Android. Privilege separation ha...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{minutes|2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
Will Fiveash, Carlos Garay, Thomas Hardjono, Greg Hudson, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkova, Tom Yu&lt;br /&gt;
==Proxy GSS==&lt;br /&gt;
;Carlos: Proxy GSS in Java for Android. Privilege separation happens e.g. one Unix UID per application.&lt;br /&gt;
;Tom: Proxy [...] need to do some privilege checking that kernel otherwise does for you.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: A few key things: (1) How to handle permissions. How to know whether to give an application access to use a keytab.&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: Have to have a policy...&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: Almost all platforms can give you the UID of an IPC peer.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: Not necessarily wanting to rely on UID.&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: Or use Unix file permissions.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: e.g. different subdirectory per keytab.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: (2) What do we want to proxy? Could proxy every mech or only individual mechs?&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: Doing individual message stuff in-process? [...] might be some mech that needs access to long-term private creds for the process to use an imported context.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: Flag mech as proxiable?&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: What about SPNEGO? What if some mechs are proxiable, while some are not? Maybe all-or-nothing?&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: Could proxy, send actual secret in export to app.&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: Inband renegotiation complications [ ... probably borrowing trouble as doing this tunneled over wrap tokens depends on application properties ] Could start simple: proxy everything. Then work on options to export back to the app.&lt;br /&gt;
;Tom: Proxy at mechglue layer, or at individual mechs? [ mechglue ]&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: How to transport stuff through IPC [ encoding etc. ]&lt;br /&gt;
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We talk about TIRPC and complications thereof; best currently BSD-licensed version is probably from Linux NFS project.&lt;br /&gt;
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==libverto==&lt;br /&gt;
libev is probably the best back end to bundle.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Embed whatever version you need.&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: libverto expects to dynamically load.&lt;br /&gt;
;Simo: Rename stuff if needed. Try to embed.&lt;br /&gt;
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It turns out libev has a number of support things that might make embedding it easier anyway.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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