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		<title>TomYu at 03:57, 4 January 2011</title>
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		<title>TomYu at 18:55, 21 June 2009</title>
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		<title>Ghudson: New page: 1.8 release: * Feature freeze around January 1 * Delivery around March 1 * Testing of new features as they are added * Documentation of hand-testing procedures which are hard to automate (...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: 1.8 release: * Feature freeze around January 1 * Delivery around March 1 * Testing of new features as they are added * Documentation of hand-testing procedures which are hard to automate (...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;1.8 release:&lt;br /&gt;
* Feature freeze around January 1&lt;br /&gt;
* Delivery around March 1&lt;br /&gt;
* Testing of new features as they are added&lt;br /&gt;
* Documentation of hand-testing procedures which are hard to automate (perhaps a wiki page for this kind of documentation)&lt;br /&gt;
* Hand-testing procedures can be useful even if an automated test exists (because they are simpler)&lt;br /&gt;
* Zhana proposed a testing milestone halfway through the development cycle, where we verify that we can test every new feature developed so far&lt;br /&gt;
* Will notes that developers don't always write the best tests for the code they wrote; it's valuable to get input from other developers on what tests might be useful&lt;br /&gt;
* Should think about how to decrease the barrier between &amp;quot;having a written manual test plan&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;adding to our automated test suite&amp;quot;; currently the barrier is too high for many developers&lt;br /&gt;
* (Some discussion of the limitations of our testing infrastructure)&lt;br /&gt;
* (Some discussion of performance testing)&lt;br /&gt;
** Feature freeze is a good time to look for performance regressions&lt;br /&gt;
** We have some reported performance issues we should look into for 1.8, independently of that&lt;br /&gt;
* Crypto modularity&lt;br /&gt;
** Some possible back ends (like PKCS11) require opaque handles, and also support keys being withheld from the application code&lt;br /&gt;
** Another issue is fork safety (PKCS11 handles should not be used across forks)&lt;br /&gt;
** Supporting these requires API changes&lt;br /&gt;
** Sun's solution was to add a derived key list, pid, and PKCS11 object handle to the keyblock&lt;br /&gt;
** Sam's proposal was to create a special kind of key where the key data is a handle to an extended object (breaks application code which makes its own use of the keyblock data)&lt;br /&gt;
* SHA2&lt;br /&gt;
** We proposed new enctypes using SHA2 hash algorithms&lt;br /&gt;
** We got some pushback from people wanting to minimize the number of Kerberos enctypes&lt;br /&gt;
** NIST's statement does not require agencies to stop using SHA1 for HMACs or PRNGs on any fixed state (only for uses requiring collision resistance) but does encourage the use of SHA2&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ghudson</name></author>	</entry>

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