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		<title>TomYu at 21:36, 10 January 2011</title>
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		<title>Jander: Release Meeting Minutes 2008-01-07 moved to Release Meeting Minutes/2008-01-07</title>
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		<title>Jander: New page: Minutes of weekly release meeting for 1/7/2008 3:30PM EST   '''Public access to meeting minutes'''  Wyl: meeting minutes to be public or not?  Sam: want them to be that way eventually, exc...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Minutes of weekly release meeting for 1/7/2008 3:30PM EST   &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Public access to meeting minutes&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Wyl: meeting minutes to be public or not?  Sam: want them to be that way eventually, exc...&lt;/p&gt;
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Wyl: meeting minutes to be public or not?&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: want them to be that way eventually, excluding confidential information&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: important that changes in state between public and confidential information should be made clear to all during meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: would like Sun to suggest people to do code review of krb trunk. MIT looking to help them define what to look for.&lt;br /&gt;
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Kevin: CCAPI. Debugging client server interactions. Been communicating with lxs for help. Feels good&lt;br /&gt;
about current state of project. Was able to reuse RPC code.&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom: made progress on mechglue last week, additional work remains.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: Tom should put fuller mechglue proposal onto k5wiki to get outside input.&lt;br /&gt;
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Everyone's mostly up-to-date in Daptiv, MIT's project tracking system.&lt;br /&gt;
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No one else brought up issues re: their release status&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Wyllys: LDAP traversal / DAO layer issue'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom: there for crash recovery (ex: berkeley db can cause data loss). It provides the possibility of salvaging more data in case of inconsistencies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: DAO interface needs more backends&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: think that exists&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: very berkeley db specific. trying to preserve CLI.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: problems re incremental propagation. wants to query backend &amp;quot;do you support this?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: agrees that would be good, but not right for something this berkeley db specific. overkill&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: Sun's incremental propagation isn't reasonable to use with an ldap backend&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: thought it was backend independent&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: think there's an issue with locking. Will look into it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: But yes, query mech does seem reasonable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: Might bring up on krbdev.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: an example of why everyone needs to be involved in project reviews. involved at a point where everyone's concerns can be addressed&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: or just define general principles on interface stability&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: Any interface stability principle will need a procedure for breaking an interface. There's always a question of what happens when two sets of code can't handle the same interface, requiring breaking. Agrees there should have been a better, more involved review.&lt;br /&gt;
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Wyl: Or code review to catch that regression.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam: aware of changes, decided to accept them (not happy, but accepting the code was the best option, even with regressions/changes). If there was a better interface policy, would've been able to follow it. ABI and CLI stability are exactly what the Consortium needs to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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